Help CleanTechnica’s work by a Substack subscription, on Patreon, or on Stripe. Assist us produce the entire high-quality, unique content material we publish week after week regardless of the challenges of content-scraping AI, delinquent media, inflation, and different hurdles.
Within the first a part of this collection, we rode in an XPENG L03 with VLA 2.0 in Amsterdam. For context, it’s best to learn that article first. Within the second half, we change to a Tesla Mannequin 3 with FSD. Whereas FSD is frequent within the US, it has not but been authorized in China, the place XPENG’s VLA 2.0 is presently on the highway. FSD can be not authorized in most of Europe but, but it surely was first given approval within the Netherlands and has been increasing into a number of different international locations. As XPENG was testing VLA 2.0 in Amsterdam, this was the primary alternative to expertise each programs on the identical roads back-to-back.
The automotive we rode in was a black Mannequin 3 Highland. This specific instance lacked a flip sign stalk. For Europe, the Mannequin 3 is produced in Shanghai. The automotive was up to date with the newest model of FSD, working on HW4. It was not a show-prepped automobile, however reasonably a buyer automotive that the proprietor lent to XPENG. Tesla vehicles are extremely popular within the Netherlands, so we simply blended in.
Resulting from some digicam difficulties, I ended up taking the check loop within the Tesla twice. This labored out for the perfect. The identical driver from the L03 video was in a position to be a part of me on the second Tesla lap as nicely, sharing his perspective and offering consistency in driver threat tolerance.
As with the XPENG check, we confronted challenges that go far past what most would ever expertise within the US, from the proliferation of bicycles to the difficult visitors patterns. Nonetheless, because the Tesla lap was a bit later within the day, visitors had noticeably subsided.
FSD: React & Appropriate
With Tesla FSD, the general theme was reacting after which correcting. If it noticed a bicycle coming at a distance, it might react, brake abruptly, after which go ahead when it decided that it had time to make it by a maneuver. It might have a tendency to go away a considerably bigger hole within the course of. In some methods, this overly cautious method might be seen as safer.
Nonetheless, these reactions might trigger different points. In a single case, it abruptly stopped in the course of the bike lane for an oncoming bike owner at a distance and stayed there lengthy sufficient that it ended up blocking a motorcycle coming from the opposite route on the opposite facet of the bike lane. In one other case, it stopped at a inexperienced gentle whereas a pedestrian approached an intersection however didn’t enter it. By the point FSD discovered what was taking place, the sunshine had gone from inexperienced to purple. In one other case, it stopped abruptly for somebody approaching an intersection whereas the sunshine was altering, after which left after the sunshine had turned purple. In a single occasion, it was overly cautious on yellow and stopped when it might have made it by the intersection.
Of the 2 vehicles on the check loop, solely the Tesla had individuals honk at it. This was largely as a result of the way it responded at intersections. Generally it was overly cautious and held up visitors. As soon as, it stopped in the course of the highway and blocked the tram line and a number of lanes of visitors. On one waypoint in the course of the first lap, it stopped in the course of an intersection at a facet road and wouldn’t reengage.
The Tesla additionally had points selecting the correct lane. On a number of events, it made turns from the mistaken lane. In a single case, it received into the suitable flip lane once we have been turning left and was going to loop the block. The motive force took over to get again into the right lane.
Reacting and correcting additionally utilized to steering. In a single case on the primary lap, it didn’t see a median early sufficient and needed to shift abruptly when making a flip. Nonetheless, even in low-speed maneuvers, the steering wheel tends to maneuver in spurts: flip, right, flip, right… It’s not as noticeable when FSD is working in isolation, but it surely seems as a big distinction after using with VLA 2.0. When making a few of these speedy corrections, you may sense the tires slipping barely on the slick, moist bricks. I want to check these programs once more in snow or ice to see how they carry out in even slipperier circumstances.
“React and proper” has one other double-edged nature to it. Abrupt braking for a bicycle within the distance may err on the facet of warning for that bicycle, even whether it is past what is critical. Nonetheless, the automotive behind chances are you’ll not anticipate the sudden braking. As such, they could not cease in time and will rear finish you. This potential impression is more likely to be thought-about the opposite automotive’s fault, however an impression remains to be an impression.
When accelerating, the Tesla was not as clean. In lots of circumstances, it might hesitate earlier than taking off. Then, it might lurch off the road initially after which gradual, then speed up extra. It was general much less snug. Whereas I didn’t have a stopwatch, it possible didn’t speed up quicker general to the specified velocity. It simply began later, took off quicker after which slowed, reasonably than a constant price of acceleration. As well as, it might speed up to past the velocity restrict based mostly on person settings, though that perform could also be going away in Europe with new UN DCAS laws, which additionally require fingers on the wheel throughout city driving.
As visitors depleted whereas the day progressed, the circumstances have been a bit completely different by my third loop. In areas with much less visitors, the Tesla felt extra snug. With much less stopping and accelerating, the Tesla additionally felt smoother. Amsterdam is an excessive driving situation. When working on extra open roads with fewer obstacles, like a lot of the US, FSD could be a great choice. The newest model feels higher than the model that I had pushed a couple of months in the past within the US.
FSD did have problem exiting and getting into road parking areas autonomously. In every case, the motive force wanted to take over. A part of this has to do with the tight parking areas in Amsterdam. Nonetheless, whereas trying self-parking, FSD indicated it had parked efficiently, however was nonetheless half method into visitors. The motive force wanted to re-park nearer to the curb. This additionally won’t be as a lot of a priority within the US, the place the areas should not as slender.
The Tesla was in a position to drive round obstacles with a spot of an inch or two. Nonetheless, it was not a fast or clean course of, making a number of corrections whereas shifting slowly. If given sufficient time, it was in a position to accomplish the maneuver. That mentioned, it might be a problem if the automotive made it midway by after which gave up, because it might be troublesome for the human to get out of the scenario. As a result of design of the automobile, it’s a bit more durable to know the place the corners are, particularly when the motive force is much less conversant in the automotive. Fortunately, we didn’t get caught in any tight spots.

Waypoints have been a problem for the Tesla. Generally it might miss the waypoint after which attempt to flip round. In a single case, it missed the waypoint, drove round, missed it once more after which tried to go down one other highway to make one other loop. In that occasion, the motive force took over after which reengaged FSD when the waypoint was deleted and the automotive was shifting in the suitable route once more. In one other, it tried to cease for a waypoint in the course of a highway, blocking visitors. Then, when the waypoint was deleted, FSD typically wouldn’t reengage or took a couple of seconds to take off once more. Normally, many drivers won’t use waypoints whereas driving. Nonetheless, as autos method greater ranges of autonomy, the flexibility to navigate to particular factors turns into extra necessary.
When maneuvering by construction-related roadblocks, the Tesla would typically make the mistaken transfer, leading to a takeover to get again heading in the right direction. We additionally went down the mistaken lane for a big size after going up over a curb to get round a stopped automobile. The Tesla waited for an additional break within the curb to return to the right facet of the highway. We handed a cop coming towards us in our lane, however he fortunately didn’t flip round to provide us a ticket.
Nonetheless, there was additionally an occasion the place the Tesla backed as much as accommodate oncoming building gear. That was spectacular. Backing up can be crucial for some slender, one lane roads in Europe, as seen in components of Greece. Reverse operation was not but activated on the L03 prototype, however that offers XPENG one thing to work on.
General, the Tesla felt like a driver from center America attempting to drive in Amsterdam. The visitors patterns are extra complicated than these in NYC, and much more complicated than in a metropolis like Austin. It felt overly cautious and nervous, not being absolutely tailored to the complicated visitors and highway circumstances. In numerous circumstances with a special body of reference, it might possible really feel extra snug.
Within the third a part of this collection, I’ll get into extra particulars of the vehicles and evaluate a number of the variations. However you may also evaluate it to the earlier XPENG L03 video:
Join CleanTechnica’s Weekly Substack for Zach and Scott’s in-depth analyses and excessive degree summaries, join our every day e-newsletter, and observe us on Google Information!
Have a tip for CleanTechnica? Wish to promote? Wish to counsel a visitor for our CleanTech Discuss podcast? Contact us right here.
Join our every day e-newsletter for 10–15 new cleantech tales a day. Or join our weekly one on high tales of the week if every day is just too frequent.


CleanTechnica makes use of affiliate hyperlinks. See our coverage right here.
CleanTechnica’s Remark Coverage
